What I’m trying to say is that if an experience is
 proposed to me—I don’t have any particular interest
 in it—Any more than anything else. I’m interested in
 anything. Like I could walk out the door right now and go some
 where else. I don’t have any center in that sense. If you’ll look
 in my palm you’ll see that my heart and my head line are
 the same and if you’ll look in your palm you’ll see that it’s
 different. My heart and my head feel exactly the same. Me,
 I like to lay around of a Sunday and drink beer. I don’t feel
 a necessity for being a mature person in this world. I mean
 all the grown-ups in the world, they’re just playing house, all
 poets know that. How does your head feel? How I feel is
 what I think. I look at you today, & I expect you to look
 the same tomorrow. If you’re having a nervous breakdown, I’m
 not going to be looking at you like you’re going to die, because
 I don’t think you are. If you’re a woman you put yourself
 somewhere near the beginning and then there’s this other place
 you put yourself in terms of everybody. “The great cosmetic strange-
 ness of the normal deep person.” Okay. Those were those people—and
 I kept telling myself, I have to be here, because I don’t have
 a country. How tight is the string? And what is on this particular
 segment of it? And the photographer, being black, and the writer,
 me, being white, fell out at this point. And he didn’t want to
 look at it—I mean it’s nothing, just some drunk Indians riding
 Jersey milk cows—but I wanted to see it, I mean it was right
 in front of my eyes and I wanted therefore to look at it.
 And death is not any great thing, it’s there or it’s not. I mean
 god is the progenitor of religious impetuousity in the human beast.
 And Davy Crockett is right on that—I mean he’s gonna shoot a bear,
 but he’s not gonna shoot a train, because the train is gonna run
 right over him. You can’t shoot the train. And I always thought
 there was another way to do that. And it is necessary to do that
 and we bear witness that it is necessary to do it. The only distinction
 between men and women is five million shits.




















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